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   * [[#General|General]]   * [[#General|General]]
   * [[#Methodology|Methodology]]   * [[#Methodology|Methodology]]
-  * [[#Speakers---Heralds|Speakers / Heralds]] +  * [[#Speakers--Heralds|Speakers / Heralds]] 
-  * [[#CCH---Booths|CCH / Booths]] +  * [[#CCH--Booths|CCH / Booths]] 
-  * [[#VOC---Rider|VOC / Rider]]+  * [[#VOC--Rider|VOC / Rider]]
   * [[#New-Tech|New Tech]]   * [[#New-Tech|New Tech]]
   * [[#Custom-Consoles|audio.c3lingo.org]]   * [[#Custom-Consoles|audio.c3lingo.org]]
   * [[#Custom-Consoles|Custom Consoles]]   * [[#Custom-Consoles|Custom Consoles]]
-  * [[#Rescheduled|Rescheduled]]+  * [[#ReScheduled|ReScheduled]]
  
 ===== General ===== ===== General =====
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   * ❤️ **rescheduled** (+12)   * ❤️ **rescheduled** (+12)
     * Put any issues / feature requests [[#Rescheduled|below]] please!     * Put any issues / feature requests [[#Rescheduled|below]] please!
 +  * Are our **services promoted sufficiently**?
   * better understanding of “team voucher” situation (if there are going to be vouchers next year)   * better understanding of “team voucher” situation (if there are going to be vouchers next year)
 +    * Quite likely yes, but most people will still get a ticket via the angel voucher
   * Big **kudos** from the content team (tomate, erdgeist) for the outstanding quality of the interpretations. A unique feature of Congress.   * Big **kudos** from the content team (tomate, erdgeist) for the outstanding quality of the interpretations. A unique feature of Congress.
     * I’ve also heard lots of praise from heralds and great applause from the audience for c3lingo     * I’ve also heard lots of praise from heralds and great applause from the audience for c3lingo
   * Angel shirt design: I want my wings! (+1)   * Angel shirt design: I want my wings! (+1)
-    * I’d love a c3lingo shirt/hoodie :) (+2)+    * I don’t really care about wings, I just would have liked getting it in the proper size 
 +    * I’d love a c3lingo shirt/hoodie :) (+3)
  
 ===== Methodology ===== ===== Methodology =====
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     * Like a buddy system maybe whereby newbies get assigned an experienced person? Sounds good, thought about the same.     * Like a buddy system maybe whereby newbies get assigned an experienced person? Sounds good, thought about the same.
   * During **Q&A**, I prefer to translate the questions and answers as tandem. two distinctive voices make it easier for the listeners to distinguish the questions from the answers by the speaker as they tend to speed up towards the end of their slot. Further the translation allows for more dynamic in case a Q&A turns into a dialogue. Suggestion: Have 2 cards in each booth, one with a Q and one with an A, to remind translaters to coordinate this and allow for a simple, non-verbal communication method   * During **Q&A**, I prefer to translate the questions and answers as tandem. two distinctive voices make it easier for the listeners to distinguish the questions from the answers by the speaker as they tend to speed up towards the end of their slot. Further the translation allows for more dynamic in case a Q&A turns into a dialogue. Suggestion: Have 2 cards in each booth, one with a Q and one with an A, to remind translaters to coordinate this and allow for a simple, non-verbal communication method
-    * +5+    * +6
     * Would prefer it not be a rule per se but rather a clearly spelled out possibly to decide in the booth as a team?     * Would prefer it not be a rule per se but rather a clearly spelled out possibly to decide in the booth as a team?
-  * Maybe it makes sense to not have an on stage translation for the **angel meeting**, but also do this **simultaniously**? Doing it sequentially takes a lot of time and at least on day 2 there where no questions in English.+    * I find this gets confusing/stressful quickly (moderator interjecting, q & a talking over each other) 
 +  * Maybe it makes sense to not have an on stage translation for the **angel meeting**, but also do this **simultaneously**? Doing it sequentially takes a lot of time and at least on day 2 there where no questions in English.
  
 ===== Speakers / Heralds ===== ===== Speakers / Heralds =====
  
-  * Are our **services promoted sufficiently**? 
   * There were several cases of **heralds being unsure (or confidently saying wrong things)** about whether there were translations, or whether they were EN/DE or other languages (+4)   * There were several cases of **heralds being unsure (or confidently saying wrong things)** about whether there were translations, or whether they were EN/DE or other languages (+4)
     * See [[#Rescheduled|ReScheduled]] section for some ideas for solutions     * See [[#Rescheduled|ReScheduled]] section for some ideas for solutions
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   * in case of redesign of the interface: space out the knobs a little bit, general design works for me (+1)   * in case of redesign of the interface: space out the knobs a little bit, general design works for me (+1)
   * **Worked really well** for me, I’d like to see more of them   * **Worked really well** for me, I’d like to see more of them
-    * +2+    * +3
   * not a fan of the **headphones**, very tight and not good to wear **with glasses** (+1)   * not a fan of the **headphones**, very tight and not good to wear **with glasses** (+1)
   * would also prefer a **rotating microphone arm** like in the rented consoles   * would also prefer a **rotating microphone arm** like in the rented consoles
   * The fact that the proprietary consoles cannot be on at the same time sucks donkey gonads   * The fact that the proprietary consoles cannot be on at the same time sucks donkey gonads
-    * +4, love the custom consoles for this alone already (+2)+    * +4, love the custom consoles for this alone already (+3)
  
-==== Rescheduled: ====+==== ReScheduled: ====
  
 +  * Allow splitting longer shifts (e.g. lightning talks) so that you have a first half to assign people to.
   * For completeness even though this is talked about a lot already: **APIs and integration**   * For completeness even though this is talked about a lot already: **APIs and integration**
     * API / Web view: An easy way for heralds to see what languages will be available     * API / Web view: An easy way for heralds to see what languages will be available
 +      * The overview in “my assignements” was well structured. Maybe that can be done for available languages on THAT talk too?
     * Fahrplan: Discoverability for users: See languages for talks and get linked to audio.c3l… automatically     * Fahrplan: Discoverability for users: See languages for talks and get linked to audio.c3l… automatically
     * Engelsystem: Compare shift assignments, maybe even auto-sign-up     * Engelsystem: Compare shift assignments, maybe even auto-sign-up
     * Related: Provide **Stage Managers** some easy way to **check rescheduled** for the languages we are providing     * Related: Provide **Stage Managers** some easy way to **check rescheduled** for the languages we are providing
 +    * Related: Sometimes the translators have multiple common target languages, so explicitly setting one on the talk would help. Bonus points for auto setting when there is only one common language.
 +    * Based on the target language and confirmed interpreters, generate the intro and outro.
   * The emergence of a great tool finally boosting productivity+deliberation during shift assignments can only mean 1 thing: **AI will send us into oblivion**. Probably next year. Or the year after, 100%….   * The emergence of a great tool finally boosting productivity+deliberation during shift assignments can only mean 1 thing: **AI will send us into oblivion**. Probably next year. Or the year after, 100%….
   * [session does not link to fahrplan] also badly interacts with the fact that the **“assignment” view doesn’t show the speaker’s name**, which we’re supposed to read out in the intro :) that is to say, if the assignment view showed the speaker name, it wouldn’t be as bad that it’s harder to get to the fahrplan view, or vice versa :)   * [session does not link to fahrplan] also badly interacts with the fact that the **“assignment” view doesn’t show the speaker’s name**, which we’re supposed to read out in the intro :) that is to say, if the assignment view showed the speaker name, it wouldn’t be as bad that it’s harder to get to the fahrplan view, or vice versa :)
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     * sum of hours could be one thing; OTOH, the //number// of assignments (show count for the current day, also show count for the whole event) could also be interesting values to display, again with the idea of making the assigner’s job easier     * sum of hours could be one thing; OTOH, the //number// of assignments (show count for the current day, also show count for the whole event) could also be interesting values to display, again with the idea of making the assigner’s job easier
   * Not so happy about people who jump the queue during assignment by adding themselves with special interest at the last minute just before a talk gets assigned. Could this be avoided - either by just talking about it or by technical means?   * Not so happy about people who jump the queue during assignment by adding themselves with special interest at the last minute just before a talk gets assigned. Could this be avoided - either by just talking about it or by technical means?
 +    * is this a bad thing? Some people might only read over this rather late…
     * In the vein of keeping things nice & cooperative, one technical method that would make sense to me (your mileage may vary) would be that **last-minute special interest claims** are only accepted if the other candidates approve of that action. I.e. once the meeting has officially started, if somebody enters a special interest, have the other candidates for that talk click a nice little checkmark beside the special interest string to say “yeah, fine with me”. Well, obviously, that’s kind of the same result one could achieve by simply talking about it in the meeting. But when things get a little crowded / chaotic / lack of time-ey – maybe a little checkmark to click might be a little more efficient than working things out vocally? Only really, actually one would need to discuss the matter when not every other candidate for the talk clicked on that approval thingy in good time? Then again, I know I love to over-engineer. :-))) (cv)     * In the vein of keeping things nice & cooperative, one technical method that would make sense to me (your mileage may vary) would be that **last-minute special interest claims** are only accepted if the other candidates approve of that action. I.e. once the meeting has officially started, if somebody enters a special interest, have the other candidates for that talk click a nice little checkmark beside the special interest string to say “yeah, fine with me”. Well, obviously, that’s kind of the same result one could achieve by simply talking about it in the meeting. But when things get a little crowded / chaotic / lack of time-ey – maybe a little checkmark to click might be a little more efficient than working things out vocally? Only really, actually one would need to discuss the matter when not every other candidate for the talk clicked on that approval thingy in good time? Then again, I know I love to over-engineer. :-))) (cv)
-    * maybe just indicate in a lighter color that the person “came late”? +    * maybe just indicate in a lighter color that the person “came late”? (+1) 
-  * Instead of having “wanna be a candidate” and “have special **interest**”, could it make sense to have **three levels to select**?+    * maybe also add the option to "upgrade" interest, so to add "special interest info" to a normal interest (sometimes it just doesn't seem needed because interest seems low, until right at the meeting) 
 +  * Instead of having “wanna be a candidate” and “have special **interest**”, could it make sense to have **three levels to select**? (+1)
     * prio 3: have special interest + will enter respective string (like before)     * prio 3: have special interest + will enter respective string (like before)
     * prio 2: want to be a candidate (and it would actually be nice to get the assignment)     * prio 2: want to be a candidate (and it would actually be nice to get the assignment)
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